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Re: Re: hey fling!
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nadezhda
The @chez tag is supposed to be our group clipping blog. But you've given me an idea -- maybe in some future iteration we'll have a "friends of chez Nadezhda" clipping blog!
You've identified one of the problems with del.icio.us -- it's a totally public set of info, so we could have our feed polluted because we can't control access. BTW, the first del.icio.us spam showed up a day ago.
You can defeat the pollution risk by using something like a reblog and then loading the links to del.icio.us. But for me, that defeats the beauty of having one place/one process of clipping for all my various purposes. It's the merger of personomies and folksonomies -- toward the sort of personal info cloud that Thomas VanderWal has been talking about.
If you're interested in del.icio.us as personomies -- I've some more stuff over at my new infonapsterizer blog (see sidebar). BTW -- that blog has received some nice traffic, undoubtedly generated by a couple of people tagging two of my posts and those links being hit by people interested in the whole tagging & folksonomies discussions at Many2Many etc. So del.icio.us is a whole new way to connect with conversations going on -- you don't necessarily have to get on a blogroll or be linked in somebody's post. So watch for tag whoring!
For del.icio.us to support both the big social tagging folksonomy and personal/small group functions, I think they'll need to think of themselves as a public utility that doesn't provide all the services itself but provides the basic data collection, managment, storage and retrieval functions that other services can add on to.
My thoughts on del.icio.us as a piece of market infrastructure are also over at the infonapsterizer blog. I'd be interested in your thoughts -- or whether you can understand what I'm talking about. I'm going to expand upon the notions -- hopefully sooner rather than later -- to clarify some questions prak has already raised.
Right now, here at chez and LaT we're piggybacking on del.icio.us simple capablities. We use prefixes to create tags that can be used for various purposes: personal action lists, communicating within the blog group, and creating display "clipping blogs." The tags we use for those purposes are sufficiently "unique" that no one else would be likely to use them. That being said, once someone comes across our "system" then they can screw it up by tagging their own stuff with our unique-to-us tags. One advantage of del.icio.us is that, if that happens, it's a simple matter to rename all of those tags that are being polluted with their tag editing function. But still, a pain that will undoubtedly arise in the not so distant future.
I'm hoping that eventually del.icio.us will have a bit more ability to wall off some tags/feeds, so it can really function as a personomy as well as a folksonomy.
For example, I'd like multiple inboxes so I could have several sets of aggregated feeds by topic.
I think the del.icio.us guys are going to get to these types of features quickly. Their mail discussion list is very active -- I get at least a couple of packages of discussions in my mailbox a day, with lots of interesting usage tips & hacks as well.
Check it out if you haven't yet.
Separate point for you -- I've got a Q re RSS-javascript -- it looks like they're a bit more flexible in css display than Feedroll. It would be good to know what you've found that's flaky about RSS-javascript before I shift things over to that service.
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